Episode 2
2. Battle of the TV Themes: House of Cards vs The West Wing
Is it too soon to talk American politics? Maybe, but we already recorded the episode and slated it for this week.
Join us as we dive into the iconic opening themes of “House of Cards” and “The West Wing.”
Have either of us seen these shows? You’ll find out! We even debate which show nails American politics better.
- The scheming nature of Frank Underwood!
- The hopeful idealism of the White House staff!
- Banter!
The tracks we explore:
- The Main Title Theme for “House of Cards” composed by Jeff Beal
- The Main Title Theme for “the West Wing” composed by W.G. Snuffy Walden
Want to listen to the songs we talk about? Check out our playlist!
Connect with our hosts:
- Christelle: https://www.instagram.com/stelleniumfalcon/
- Cameron: https://www.instagram.com/camthelemon/
Have suggestions for future episodes? Email us at thesoundtrackexchange@gmail.com and you just might get a shout out!
Transcript
Welcome to the soundtrack exchange where my co host, Christel and I exchange songs from movies, video games and television soundtracks and then chat about them. How about that?
Christel [:Each episode, Cameron and I will give each other a song to listen to and talk about the details, the history, and the reasons why we think our chosen tracks are so awesome. So buckle up, and let's get exchanging.
Camster [:Grisele, how are you? What's the story?
Christel [:The story is that I'm okay.
Camster [:What's what's the story of the town? What are the what do the small folks say? Do they do they appreciate your reign?
Christel [:I am beloved.
Camster [:Yes. I think yeah. I think you are. That's what that's what I'm hearing anyway.
Christel [:Yeah. I should be asking you. What are what are what are you hearing? What are the murmurs?
Camster [:Many people would usurp my throne.
Christel [:Yeah. Makes sense.
Camster [:And have me taken out onto the streets and and stoned.
Christel [:Stoned or,
Camster [:But I'm here for a good time, a long time. You know?
Christel [:Have your arms and legs pulled?
Camster [:On the x? Oh, pulled.
Christel [:The x is a little kinky.
Camster [:Yeah. What did yeah. I thought I saw that definitely was a
Christel [:little fun.
Camster [:Yeah. Okay. Sure. People could pay me for that. Anyway
Christel [:Cameron, how are you making your money these days?
Camster [:Just getting strapped up. Need don't need to say anymore.
Christel [:You know, I will say one thing that I am endlessly thankful for is that I was born in the right time period.
Camster [:Me and you both. Yes.
Christel [:Because I just don't know. I'm gonna be honest. I don't know if I have what it takes to survive in, like, a you know, that, like, medieval time period. I don't know if I have what it takes to survive that. You know, there's, like, the memes out there that says, like, if I was born in the 1600, I'd be burned at the stake. You know, like that. I just
Camster [:There'd be no podcasts. There'd be no allowing your personality to flourish and finding your true identity. You'd be conforming to whatever kept you alive and maybe rich.
Christel [:But, like, on the plus side, I wouldn't have to work. You know?
Camster [:Well, are are you born into a a highborn family? Are you wealthy? Where
Christel [:to frolic, forced to work. You know?
Camster [:Yeah. You'd be etching that into plates of armor and selling them at medieval festivals, medieval merch.
Christel [:You know, if I had to think about it if I had to think
Camster [:Yeah.
Christel [:Carving it into leather.
Camster [:Only 2
Christel [:Pieces of leather.
Camster [:It's a gold.
Christel [:If I I I don't think I would be a highborn. I think my dad my my family would I would come from a long line of clergymen.
Camster [:Okay. Yeah.
Christel [:And I don't I don't think we would be particularly wealthy.
Camster [:I'd I'd come from a a lineage of of bards. Maybe a bard, I think.
Christel [:Wow. Yeah.
Camster [:Like, my my dad's name is Brandon Laird, which you can actually make up the word bard out of. So enough said in that regard. And secondly, he's a he's an actor. So
Christel [:Actually, you know what? I'm I'm taking that back. Well
Camster [:Yeah. You can't. You've already
Christel [:I can't. Either clergyman or, like, lawmen. So my my maiden name is Devet. Mhmm. And in South Africa, that means the law.
Camster [:Cool.
Christel [:So if we're going based on, like, last name, career meanings, you know, like Smith
Camster [:Yes.
Christel [:It would be like, Yeah. Smiths. You know? Then we would go with that. I would I would
Camster [:That's cool. That's cool.
Christel [:The law. Cameron, what are you watching these days?
Camster [:TV shows?
Christel [:Yeah. Sure.
Camster [:Nothing new and exciting. There's a new season of Slow Horses out, which I'm excited to consume. Are you familiar with Slow Horses?
Christel [:I'm I'm familiar with Slow Horses. Tell me about it.
Camster [:It's a show on Apple TV.
Christel [:Oh.
Camster [:Based in London. The lead character is Gary Old man.
Christel [:Love Gary Old man.
Camster [:Yeah. Gary's a bit of a beast.
Christel [:Serious black
Camster [:Yes.
Christel [:Slash commissioner Gordon?
Camster [:Yes. Both. And he was also very good in Leon the professional.
Christel [:He's a younger brother. Know that. I don't know that one.
Camster [:It starts, stars. Very young Natalie Portman
Christel [:Ah.
Camster [:Would be friends a serial kill not serial killer, professional assassin. Anyway
Christel [:But I mean, same thing,
Camster [:kind of. Yeah. He doesn't give off serial killer vibes. He's
Christel [:Assassins are just serial killers that get paid.
Camster [:Yeah. And kind of more chill. They're kinda, like, more chill up there Honestly. And reliable. I think serial killers are more kind of Am
Christel [:I classy? Oh, I don't know what they're gonna do. Yeah. Zany.
Camster [:All up in the air. But, yeah, I'm looking forward to watching that, and it's set in London, and it's the 4th season, and there's a great cast. And me and my girlfriend started watching chaos. She kept on with it. I didn't really enjoy it, but Remus Lupin is in that.
Christel [:Yes. I would really like to watch that's the Netflix. Yeah.
Camster [:Yeah. It's about the Earth with the Greek gods.
Christel [:I love a good Greek god retelling
Camster [:A good one.
Christel [:Mythology. Yep. That's my Roman Empire. It's like Greek mythology.
Camster [:It's way more interesting, and I think he influenced everything in the Roman Empire as well because it's just there's just Greek equivalents for Yeah. Yeah. All of the Roman stuff. Yeah. Jeff Goldblum's in it. He's pretty awesome.
Christel [:Love Jeff. Love the bloom.
Camster [:Don't see enough of the bloom.
Christel [:In the show or just in general?
Camster [:In general. I could have more bloom in general.
Christel [:You know, I just watch Jurassic Park over and over and over again, specifically when he's laying on the truck with a shirt open on his side. He's injured, but
Camster [:Yeah.
Christel [:Put that on a cake. You know?
Camster [:Glorious looking man in the heyday. Still still rocking it. Still looking very well. Very cool.
Christel [:Yes.
Camster [:Don't know one thing he's in aside from chaos in Jurassic Park. Couldn't tell you off the top of my head at all. I just know who very much he is.
Christel [:Thor Ragnarok.
Camster [:Oh, yeah. I didn't see that. Cameron. I'm a stupid person. Camster. Person.
Christel [:No. That one that one, it, I think, is one of my tops of, Marvel movies. Very funny. Taika Waititi.
Camster [:Yeah.
Christel [:Very funny.
Camster [:He messed up the last one, though, didn't he?
Christel [:It got they tried too hard. Yeah. It was, like, too funny that it wasn't funny. Yeah. You know? Which is a huge bummer.
Camster [:I wonder if he had as much control for 4 as he did for 3, Thor 4.
Christel [:Yeah. I don't know. I think they just, like, lean too hard into the jokes that it just felt forced.
Camster [:Yeah. It's all awful these days anyway. Although Deadpool, Wolverine was amazing, and Spider Man 3 with the 3 Spider Men was also amazing. Everything else, I just can't rate it.
Christel [:We've had this conversation before. I I have thoughts and feelings, but we're we're straying away from the theme of today.
Camster [:We strayed away a good bit. Shall I introduce
Christel [:the theme? That's okay. Please do.
Camster [:You go ahead because I've talked over you twice now.
Christel [:Could you just be
Camster [:Shut that mouth of yours.
Christel [:Just shut that trumpet up.
Camster [:Speaking of trumpets
Christel [:Speaking of trumpets They
Camster [:both they feature in today's 2 tunes.
Christel [:Indeed. We have decided that each, episode is gonna have a bit of a theme. You know? Like, we could choose recommendations for each other just based on
Camster [:Anything.
Christel [:Absolute chaos, or we can, like, be organized a little bit and have a little fun with it.
Camster [:You know? Finding our feet. We're finding our feet now.
Christel [:Our feet. We're gonna find a balance between organized and zany.
Camster [:By the way, we are both podcast producers for a living, but we're finding our feet. We're We're finding our feet.
Christel [:These. This is my first podcast that I've ever done. So that, like, I have ever done. You know? I maybe we shouldn't say that.
Camster [:No. They're coming along they're coming along for the ride. They they know we're phonies now, so we should just go with it.
Christel [:Well, we believe it, so they should too.
Camster [:It's all that matters. It's all that matters.
Christel [:It's fine. We're just gonna lean into it. Today's theme, TV drama.
Camster [:More specifically Title sequences. TV drama opening intro music sequences that are both about the US presidential teams.
Christel [:Just political system. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. I I had sent, I had my my recommendation for Cameron was something completely different, and then he sent me the house of cards intro. Mhmm.
Camster [:And I
Christel [:was like, you know what would be, like, a really fun theme is if we if I sent him West Wing.
Camster [:Yeah.
Christel [:Because it's also very political, but very different.
Camster [:Very different.
Christel [:Very different in tone.
Camster [:Theme theme tunes, but everything, but theme tunes especially as well.
Christel [:I, I have never seen house of cards.
Camster [:I've never seen The West Wing, which is sorry.
Christel [:So it works.
Camster [:Yeah. Which is what you recommended me.
Christel [:You know, I think it's okay. There's time. I maybe will watch House of Cards. You maybe will watch West Wing.
Camster [:Maybe.
Christel [:If you're feeling particularly curious about how The West Wing runs
Camster [:How The West Wing works?
Christel [:Zero idea how accurate it is, because I, myself, have never worked in The West Wing, so I couldn't tell you if it's
Camster [:Me neither.
Christel [:Accurate or not. But shall we start with
Camster [:one of them? I mean, I'd I don't mind who goes first. I've lots to say more about kind of the comparisons of the 2, and I'd love to get into the composers and
Christel [:Yes.
Camster [:How they both represent the TV shows. I I understand how the house of cards one represents the show even though you've never watched it and then vice versa as well.
Christel [:Yes. Yeah. I I, made some notes when I was listening to it. You did send me the 10 minute long version, which I'm just gonna be honest.
Camster [:Listened to it entirely? Oh, no. Was You didn't Too long. Oh, okay.
Christel [:It was too long.
Camster [:I didn't know there was one. Is it just that looped over and over again?
Christel [:I I could not tell you because I did not listen to the whole thing. So instead, I, like, searched
Camster [:Yeah.
Christel [:House of Cards title sequence or it title sequence? I don't think that's the right word, but title music.
Camster [:Whatever. Theme music.
Christel [:Whatever. Intro intro theme music. Whatever. And I found the, like, actual one, and so I listened to it. And it's really interesting. I mean, having not watched the show at all, I have a general idea what it's about, and I also went on to Wikipedia to, learn a little bit more. Having not watched it, I this is one of those themes that I could tell you, like, I know what this show is about.
Camster [:Yeah.
Christel [:I think there is that trumpet line, which feels very American and very, yes. But then there's that, like, underlying kind of theme that feels very sneaky and and espionage y, that I could I I can tell that the show is dramatic and mysterious and kind of dark, not very positive, but they deal in themes of, like, intrigue and sabotage and and stuff like that, which you can tell me if that is correct. I I think it is because I don't know.
Camster [:Oh, it's you're spot on. And I think I I think it's it's, yeah, it's it's all very much in the theme music. It's very much sneaky. To not to any to spoil anything, but it's about a government official who does terrible things and sneaks his way to the presidency, which I think The West Wing is more of kind of like a Grey's Anatomy style show of just the the workings of the thing, and Martin Sheen's the president throughout, and I don't know if he gets dethroned or anything
Christel [:like that.
Camster [:Don't spoil for me. Oh. Okay. But it's very much just kind of like, here's the setting, and here's the drama between the characters where House of Cards is very much about the rise and the demise. Well well, that's
Christel [:Rise and fall.
Camster [:They're not yeah. Well, it's just kind of the you know? Yeah. He's not in the last season because it was around the time he got canceled.
Christel [:Yes. Rightfully so, we should add. Yes. Yeah.
Camster [:Yes.
Christel [:Definitely definitely earned. Yeah. I it just is I guess I've never really I've never really thought about how accurate, TV theme music can be.
Camster [:But you hit the nail on the head, I feel.
Christel [:But it is I I feel that that specifically with these two shows, their themes are perfect representations of the show. Yeah. Because I think the the house of cards is very dark. It's very sneak I I don't wanna keep saying sneaky, but it just is
Camster [:true, though. It is. It's sneaky, and it's it's actually more like Game of Thrones than West Wing.
Christel [:Yeah. There's a little bit of a grossness to it. Yep. You know? Whereas, like, the West Wing theme is very, like
Camster [:Patriotic.
Christel [:Patriot. Patriotic. Almost statuesque in a way. Yeah. I don't know. Where it's very positive and lots of major chords and horns and trumpets, but then also the, like, snare drum.
Camster [:Yeah.
Christel [:I'm I'm curious, Cameron, when you think of, like, American music, like, if you were to think of music that represents the United States of America and the different, like, themes ish and, like, instruments, what do you think of?
Camster [:I think of horns. But I think of horns. Like, I think of kind of, like, obviously, military is a huge part of the American identity, so horns are kinda fitting in that way.
Christel [:Yes.
Camster [:Have you ever heard have you ever listened to the Superman theme by, it's not called that, by Hans Zimmer?
Christel [:Mhmm.
Camster [:And the intro is very much like that. Obviously, he's kind of not American. He's from he's an literal alien.
Christel [:But he grows up in in America's heartland. You know?
Camster [:Yeah. And the colors and the
Christel [:He's a good old Midwest boy.
Camster [:Yeah. He's just because he's a gentleman is what he is. Yeah. And I think, yeah, as you said, kind of the the military aspects of the snare drum and the marching band and kind of elements of that. I also, growing up, would have been a big fan of the Friday Night Lights movie, which you informed me is the same composer. Yeah. I Snuffy Walden.
Christel [:Yes. WG Snuffy Walden. I'm I'm not Snuffy Walden. Totally sure if it was the movie or the TV show that he also did. I have not seen either.
Camster [:Yeah. Fair. Fair.
Christel [:But he also did Nashville and, My So Called Life and, also Roseanne, fun fact. But he's definitely one of the more, like, prolific TV composers of this of this time. That's very good. I mean, that's a it's a really name he's got there.
Camster [:It's awesome.
Christel [:But just the theme music that he's created just is, like, so good.
Camster [:I will say that the the movie was not by, the Snuff. It was by Okay.
Christel [:So it was the show then.
Camster [:It was the show. So the movie was actually done by a band, and I knew it was because it's very, very kinda minimalistic guitar and then kinda drums, marching drums as well like that. Anyway, to answer your earlier question, the Friday Night Lights soundtrack, not necessarily the songs that were used, but the kind of the vibe and the motifs and stuff like that always remind me of, American music. Yeah. As does the House of Cards theme in a way Yes. But as you said, there's kind of like, what's the word, a a wispiness to the instruments that he used, where West Wing is very strong and
Christel [:Presidential and power, but without that, like
Camster [:Presidential. Yeah.
Christel [:Without that sneakiness. I don't I don't know why I can't think of any word other than sneaky.
Camster [:The simple way the simplest way to say it is always the best word.
Christel [:I guess. I guess. But without that, like, tinge of what what you see going on is different than what actually is going on. You know? Like, I think with West Wing, a lot of what what you're seeing is what is actually happening, and that's that's just the kind of show it is, which you're right. That is similar to, like, Grey's Anatomy. I I
Camster [:Yeah. You laughed in my face when I said that 10 minutes ago.
Christel [:Well, I did because I would I would not have compared those 2. I would not have compared those 2, but it makes sense in this context of what we're talking about. Whereas I think with house of cards, I'm assuming it it is very like what you're seeing is not what you're getting because there's other stuff happening underneath the surf surface of, like, backstabbing and
Camster [:Horrible things.
Christel [:Manipulation Yeah. And betrayal and, like, quest for power.
Camster [:Doing whatever it takes. One of the big quotes he has, the character Frank Underwood, probably my favorite, character of all time, is he always goes on about ruthless pragmatism, which is a very kind of nice way of saying doing whatever it takes and not apologizing for it, and that's what they do.
Christel [:I would be curious to hear people's thoughts about which show they think is the most accurate depiction of American politics. Because I think I can't imagine that house of cards is, like, so out of the realm of possibility in terms of, like, just the grossness of politics. You know?
Camster [:I've Googled this especially. I've, like, I've looked up Reddits and stuff. I'm not in preparation for this interview, just very much my own obsession with House of Cards.
Christel [:Free time.
Camster [:It's I don't think politics is nearly as sexy as it's made out in either show. As it is very much kind of, no. These people aren't as like, it I don't get me wrong. American politics is probably the most inter interesting brand of politics. Or not brand of politics, but definitely not Maryland. Our our politicians are just losers. They're just Yeah. So uncool.
Camster [:I think in I think in a it's a it's a much it's a much kind of better I don't know how how to say this because no one likes politicians, but I think it's Yes. A lot cooler to be an American politician high up than it would be in Ireland.
Christel [:I mean, I'd argue that just being American is cooler than being Irish.
Camster [:Oh, that hurt me. That hurt me now. Just got a jar of pain down my left arm there.
Christel [:I want everyone listening to know that I did not actually mean that. That I don't think that at all. I think it's a way cooler.
Camster [:In private, so I'd no.
Christel [:No. I am not. Jumping. Don't lie on this podcast.
Camster [:No. We don't lie here.
Christel [:We don't lie to each other, Camille.
Camster [:But I think that
Christel [:It's the sacred oath that we've taken as podcasting.
Camster [:Podcasting is all about, authenticity.
Christel [:Never lie to each other. Yep. Yeah. I but no. You're you're totally right, and I think the music kind of reflects that, whereas, like, I I think West Wing I don't know if I would describe it as sexy. Okay. It's definitely, like, idealistic. It's very positive, and it it makes you feel yeah.
Christel [:Like, that's why they're doing it. They're not they're not in a in a fight for power to, like, rule the world. You know what? The it just is what it is, and he's a politician, and he has ideals, and he sticks by his values, and and and that kind of thing. The narrative of house of cards is very different from that, and so is the the music, the theme, which I do wanna talk, about Andrew Davies. He was the one that wrote the music for House of Cards. Do you know what else he has? Wait. Hang on.
Camster [:Did you mean to say Jeff Beale?
Christel [:Didn't write the music. Dang it.
Camster [:Say that again.
Christel [:Yes. Where did I get Andrew Davies from? I think he as I was, like, searching who wrote the theme music.
Camster [:He did the House of Cards in 1990 90, which is a UK show of which Yes. The 2014 show is
Christel [:based on. No one knew it
Camster [:was good.
Christel [:He's not a I don't know where I go. I was, like, so excited to dive into this because I was like, I've heard that name before. Where have I heard it? It's because he also did a bunch of, he did the 95 Pride and Prejudice adaptation and a bunch of the other kind of, novel adaptations that I period pieces that I absolutely love. Bleak House, War and Peace, all of that. But that doesn't have anything
Camster [:Is the Pride and Prejudice in the nineties different to the one that you recommended? Oh. The Succession 1.
Christel [:My sweet dear boy. Yes. But that
Camster [:how far away were they?
Christel [:Seen either?
Camster [:No. Neither.
Christel [:Okay. I think, we need to because I do I I do want to talk about the Pride and Prejudice soundtrack because I think it's phenomenal, both the TV show and the movie. So but to answer your question now
Camster [:Mhmm.
Christel [:The 95 Pride and Prejudice is with Colin Firth as William Darcy. Mhmm. And that is a, BBC TV show. BBC TV show, I wanna say, 5, 6 episodes.
Camster [:Okay.
Christel [:Goes much more in-depth to the actual novel written by Jane Austen, whereas the movie obviously doesn't do as much because it has to be shorter. That is Keira Knightley and Succession. Yes. What's his name? Dang it. The dishy one.
Camster [:Not anymore. Gonna come to me. Hello.
Christel [:No. He still is.
Camster [:Matthew McFadden. Fadyan Fadyan.
Christel [:Yeah. McFadyan. Matthew McFadyan. I got it. I got it eventually. I thought of it before you did.
Camster [:You beat me. You beat my Google.
Christel [:Made you do it. Made you do it.
Camster [:Anyway, Jeff Beale.
Christel [:I have nothing to say about Jeff Beale because I I went down the wrong rabbit hole.
Camster [:No. That's totally fine. And to be honest
Christel [:The screenplay writers, this whole this whole last part of this episode just went off the rails because
Camster [:No. It's totally fine.
Christel [:Did I did poor research and got confused.
Camster [:This is gonna be left in. I'm just gonna look up his discography now because I only know him. I follow him I follow him on Instagram, and I, Do you? I've looked up how he's done the show and some of that. I I listen to the theme music on his own. I think it's great. I think he recorded it all on his own in his studio with his family.
Christel [:It's a talented family.
Camster [:Talented family. There's this bit where there's, like, a kind of a harrowing female operatic singer. This is in the background that goes I think that's his relative, his wife maybe.
Christel [:Wow.
Camster [:Those are recorded in the studio.
Christel [:Very impressive.
Camster [:I love that. That's my come my favorite bit about it is that, like, a like a dark opera kinda vibe of a death.
Christel [:Sneaky.
Camster [:That's what I get from that.
Christel [:Is it sneaky at all?
Camster [:Sneaky opera. Sneaky opera vibe.
Christel [:So dumb.
Camster [:But I have absolutely sweet f all to say about Jeff.
Christel [:Hey. He's great.
Camster [:Hey, Jeff. I follow you on Instagram. Hit me up.
Christel [:Jeff, we love you.
Camster [:And, yeah, well done on a great we love you guys.
Christel [:I'm so sorry.
Camster [:I try to think of other things that he'd done that either of us might know. The Queen of Versailles. Goodness. I don't recognize anything that he'd done. God, Jeff. Maybe you should up your game, man.
Christel [:You should DM him on Instagram and let him know.
Camster [:He seems to have a lot of jazz roots in his discography. So he has a complete jazz album. He's wrote written a lot of jazz pieces in his younger years.
Christel [:Lovely.
Camster [:I'd say if you're like a composer in a certain niche, and then after a few years, you know, you you go get to the middle of your life, you just accumulated all of this composition knowledge that you can go into writing OSTs and soundtracks. Mhmm. Like, you know, Tom Hulkenborg?
Christel [:I would wanna say yes, but no.
Camster [:He did like the DC. He kinda try he was kind of under Hans Zimmer. He was his mentor. Mhmm. And then he transitioned into doing like Batman versus Superman, then he did like the the Snyder cut of the Justice League, and he does like all the Godzilla movies and stuff. He's just kind of this big electronic orchestral sound composer now.
Christel [:Yeah.
Camster [:But I remember buying his cassette tape when he was Junkie XL. Remember, a little less conversation Yes. Little boy. Remember they remixed that 20 years ago. That's him.
Christel [:Why?
Camster [:So he was obviously just like, I've been DJing for 20 years. I'm just too good. I'm gonna make some real money and be like a film composer now.
Christel [:See, that's the confidence that you and I need.
Camster [:That's what we need to
Christel [:I'm too good.
Camster [:Stop being podcasters and then make podcast movies? Anyway, and then do you know Hans Zimmer was the keyboard player in video kill the radio star. What? That's it. Oh. The keys. Yeah. So they all they weren't all film composers or TV composers all their life. They all kinda came from somewhere.
Christel [:I wish that I had fun facts for you, but I don't.
Camster [:Well, maybe for future episodes, we just gotta come with a couple of fun facts.
Christel [:Just think some up.
Camster [:Just think some up there. Yeah.
Christel [:I will say Jeff Beale did do the music for Blackfish. I don't know if you watched that, documentary.
Camster [:The whale documentary?
Christel [:Yes. The orca, the killer whale documentary. Yep.
Camster [:I didn't know that. I didn't see that.
Christel [:It's very good. Very sad.
Camster [:Is it about the orcas without giving much away in the
Christel [:In captivity. Yeah. In the, like Yeah. SeaWorld SeaWorld. Yeah. Other water parks. Yeah.
Camster [:Okay. What do you think the theme for our next, episode should be?
Christel [:Oh. Oh. Oh. Oh.
Camster [:Because I'm thinking maybe Pride and Prejudice, and one of us chooses the TV show and the other the movie.
Christel [:Do you know anything about either?
Camster [:No. But that would be that would be my homework. Have you seen both?
Christel [:Absolutely. I've seen both
Camster [:Okay.
Christel [:Many times.
Camster [:I kinda like this dynamic where we we both had seen our own source material or knew the music. Well, but we were able to talk about it. Is there something like that where we could do?
Christel [:I think so. Let's do Halloween. Let's do a Halloween movie. Yeah. Because it's fall. Now at this time the time of this recording, it is fall. I love Halloween.
Camster [:Autumn for our European listeners. Sure.
Christel [:Because
Camster [:It's autumnal.
Christel [:Are you a scary movie guy? Do you enjoy, horror movies?
Camster [:Like, horror horror, like the Texas chainsaw and the conjuring and all that stuff?
Christel [:Yeah. Because I feel like there's, like, not scary Halloween movies, and then there's, like, scary Halloween movies.
Camster [:Yeah. I wouldn't be I wouldn't be big into, like, jumpy stuff or, like, gory stuff.
Christel [:Oh, I hate I hate I hate I don't mind gore, but I hate scare jumps.
Camster [:I I think maybe let's not do scary movies. Let's do, like, Halloweeny movies.
Christel [:I love that.
Camster [:Like, the the Nightmare Before Christmas, I think, is valid, even though I'm I'm not a big big fan. Oh, it's a really good
Christel [:Don't tell me. You're not a big fan?
Camster [:Wouldn't be
Christel [:a big fan though.
Camster [:I'd probably I'd probably What? I feel I'd no music springs to mind. I'm not as big of a halloweener as you are. I go and celebrate it at all. To me, it signifies it indicates that winter is coming. Pardon the pardon the phrasing
Christel [:in Ireland.
Camster [:And, like, it's just gonna be really, really cold and get more cold and miserable. It signifies back to school, back to college. I don't have, like
Christel [:Interesting. Okay. We have to save this for the next episode.
Camster [:We need
Christel [:to save it for the next episode.
Camster [:So I will choose I will choose, I will do a bit of digging. I'm sure there's something there, and then you tell me what
Christel [:what I should do. This is where I'm gonna shine.
Camster [:And if you wanted do you think you'll probably choose Nightmare Before Halloween? Because I would watch it again if so.
Christel [:Nightmare Before Christmas.
Camster [:What did I say?
Christel [:Nightmare Before Halloween.
Camster [:Oh, god.
Christel [:I don't know. Maybe. I think you should just watch it anyway.
Camster [:I will, but probably not in the next 7 days.
Christel [:I just I think what's gonna be hard is is picking a song because I think there's so many really good ones.
Camster [:This is Halloween. That's from that, isn't it? Halloween. Halloween.
Christel [:Yes. Yeah. I can sing that whole song without the lyrics. I know the whole thing.
Camster [:Go.
Christel [:Prize. Around that corner man, hiding the trash, Benson, how you scream this is all. Aren't you scared? Well, that's just fine. Say it once, say it twice. Anyway
Camster [:Very good. What a taste. What a taste of what's to come.
Christel [:What a lovely little taste. You're welcome.
Camster [:I'd love to be able to play these songs on the show, but,
Christel [:Copyright.
Camster [:We wouldn't be able to monetize this.
Christel [:Yeah. Ugh. And that's all we really want is to be able to monetize anything that we do.
Camster [:I'm not doing this for the I'm doing this for my Yeah.
Christel [:I'm not doing this for giggles.
Camster [:The love of it. Oh. The eventual prospect of earning it.
Christel [:The laughs. Yeah. Of course not.
Camster [:You can't eat laughs. You can't eat laughs, can you? You can't pay your rent with laughs.
Christel [:No. Can't wash your dishes with laughs. Okay. I I have to go.
Camster [:Okay. I'll say talk to you later.
Christel [:Okay. Bye. Bye. Thanks for listening to the soundtrack exchange. If you wanna listen to the tracks discussed this week or any previously released episode, check out the playlist linked in the show notes. And if you enjoy this podcast, share it with someone you know and leave a review.
Camster [:Also, if you have some soundtrack themes and topics that Chrisel and I should explore, feel free to email us with your suggestions. If it's chosen, we'll be sure to give you a shout out.
Christel [:Until next time.
